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your definition of a successful soft landing on the surface of the moon is historically speaking during the apollo era. during the first cold space race with the soviet union, a successful soft landing meant any landing where the spacecraft was able to communicate and transmit signals no, it's to, earth. odysseus meets that definition. but if your definition of a successful soft landing is landing perfectly upright, clearly it didn't do that, but i would say far more went right on this mission, then went wrong. >> kristin fisher, you know, your stuff. thank you very, very much. kristin fisher reporting for us that's wherever you are is thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. i'll be back saturday, 04:00 p.m. eastern for special coverage of the south carolina republican primary. till then. thanks very much once again for watching the news continues next on sienna >> tonight straight from the source, just hours away from the next crucial gop primary in nikki haley's home state of
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south carolina, the new attacks and the new fear for democrats if donald trump wins also the clock now ticking for donald trump pay up nearly half $1 billion for fraud, including interests. and vladimir putin paying the price today as president biden rules out, hundreds of new sales actions against russia as we approach the second anniversary of the invasion of ukraine. i'm brianna keilar in for kaitlan collins, and this is the source tonight, we're ten hours from the first polls opening in the first in the south, republican primary in south carolina. nikki haley's home state where she is facing a daunting uphill battle with donald trump, bleeding in the double digits in the latest polls. but anything can happen, of course, both still fighting until the finnish trading new attacks on the trail she's going to have a very bad day tomorrow because
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she's not a nice person. nikki is actually gone very far left. she's very rude how does that trump is siding with a dictator who kills his political opponents. donald trump calls anybody that doesn't support him vermin that's not normal >> haley is still vowing to stay in the race if she doesn't pull off an upset and despite trump's focus on haley in these final hours, he says he's not worried about tomorrow, but focused on november 5 and going toe-to-toe with president biden again, he's making a push tonight to court black voters in the state where biden cruz to victory in the democratic primary this month, with the help of many black voters who also helped catapult biden to the democratic nomination in 2020. trump's speaking now at the black conservative federation gala. let's listen in for just a moment
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>> religious support evangelical support in particular. and he was going up, up, up and i was up there. i came out and we would i was doing really well and i started to get a little bit nervous about ben and he was going up a little too fast. i was not and he said to be you have nothing to worry about god put you in this position. you're going to, when i was running against him, he's the most competitive guy but he said, you're going to win, god put you in this position. and i was confused because debate stage, all right, joining me now, we have the man known as the kingmaker for democrats in the state of south carolina, national co-chair for the biden campaign pain congressman james clyburn, sir thanks for taking the time to be with us tonight. you heard that, right there, donald trump, tonight speaking at a gala for black conservatives in your home state, he's ramping up efforts to try to flip black voters over to the republican party. why do you think he sees opportunity there? >> well, thank you very much
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for having me. i don't know that he sees opportunity. it's sort of way broader want of a block or he will do anything to make a headline i do believe that most people know that if god took him, where he did he is worshipping. what we call of god i grew up in a posture i've practiced affinity. all of my life. my dad does often in the old testament to get from the new, i don't see anything it's one of those that indicate that he is the god will send delete this country. >> so >> i don't know what he's doing, but i don't put any faith in that been successful south carolina senator tim scott you see him. he is clearly openly auditioning to
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be trump's vp pick. >> do you >> worry about trump picking tim scott maybe attracting black voters also maybe assuaging the concerns of some moderate white voters who are turned off by trump's racist rhetoric >> well, i would hook that everybody looked at the record rather than the rhetoric. the rhetoric different thing trump as a wreck that every woman ought to be concerned about. that record is given us three supreme court justices that's taken away right after, right after, right from women. he has supported policies that is tried look at trump university that he created, and now i have to forgive that debt of all those young people are quite a few of them african americans who paid him their money he did not give them the education and
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training that he promised them. and they still owe the debt and joe biden is limited in that deck for them. so i think the jump people are going to look at this record. a trump they are going to vote. their selfish interests and part of that is the job of debt especially this debt that was unfair congressman i've been speaking with some democrats who have concerns that some black >> voters are unhappy with how the president is handling israel's war with hamas. they're joined by young voters. they're joined by arab and muslim american voters as well. how do you do you think the biden campaign should be addressing these concerns >> well, i think that is if all we were to do is just look at some of the headline. i saw headlines several days ago indicated that joe biden is looking at the possibilities. are recognizing at the take
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that there's something he's disgusting. i have seen indications that he is expressed to yahoo. he is concerned about the way he is handling the hostage situation. so joe biden is doing the work. now, all of us can look at it and have our own positions as to world not the work is fast enough. but you body is doing the work and so i would say the antibody that's concerned that's all credit to joe biden for doing the work. and we will get this done so i understand the concerns. i have them as well >> i do want to ask you, you mentioned women and the supreme court. i want to ask you about the situation with the alabama supreme court ruling that
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embryos are babies and the fallout that we're seeing with ivf because of this, many republicans are trying they clean this up as quickly as they can, quicker than some other issues they have now saying that ivf will not be prosecuted. do you think voters will remember this in november or do you think republicans are going to clean this up quickly enough that it kinda takes the bite out of it as an issue for democrats well, we're not going to let them take a bite out of it because we know what this come from. this comes out of that ruling the dobbs case that got rid of roe v. wade. >> we know those supreme court justices especially those two the sense we just saw alito and clarence thomas a chopping at the bit, not just to stop here, but all going all the way. the copacetic if you are saying frozen embryo must be treated
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as a person, then what is next? the egg and sperm is that net? these guys really on a mission, a mission to put women black back into second class citizenship, as well as african americans. in many instances. >> and so i would say >> that people all the time just remember when it comes to women these are white women and they're all black women. and there are brown where they're all women and they are going to be very, very interested in voting against anybody that's taking their right to work do you think in alabama they'll be able to fix this quickly so that ivf can continue there. and do you think that that is enough? >> well, i don't know what the rules are in alabama, but will
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the state supreme court of alabama he got away of rehearing. does it happen away or backing up off their decision? everybody, all the hospitals and the university's well acting upon this decision. and in doing so, they are taken away basic rights that women thought they had and did have for the last half century. so i don't see how they're going to do that unless the alabama legislature it's going to come and pass a law that will override supreme court or clarify what they think the smith pros are saying here. i don't see how you do that overnight. i hope they would, but i don't think they will all right. >> congressman jim clyburn. thank you so much for being with us on the source >> well, thank you very much. for having >> and does donald trump's surge shows no signs of slowing? can nikki haley do what it takes to stay in the race, join cnn for live results and analysis of the south
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carolina republican presidential primary coverage. beginning tomorrow at 06:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. and next, republicans are now racing to distance themselves from that bombshell ruling in alabama that embryos are children, and that includes former president trump is backlash iraq ups across the nation plus trump's team presents new evidence trying to prove the district attorney in fulton county, georgia, who is prosecuting him you have lied under oath >> demand for energy is growing and so it's the need for american oil and natural gas. it's time to turn the lights on. >> america's >> resources are abundant, >> our nation is a global leader in reducing emissions and innovators and delivering more energy sources to secure our future. nine in ten americans agree american oil and natural gas a vital to our economy.
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protect it i strongly support the availability of ivf for couples who are >> trying to have a precious little beautiful baby i should end today. >> i'm calling on the alabama legislature to act quickly to find an immediate solution to preserve the availability of ivf in alabama. and i'm sure they're going to do that >> alabama governor kay ivey said in a statement today, she also wants to protect ivf access. she's just one of many republicans now trying to distance themselves from this ruling. all of it a sign that gop is struggling to formulate a winning message. surge on reproductive rights since the overturning of roe v. wade two years ago. >> joining us now we have former >> communications director for the dnc, karen finney, and also here tonight with us, we have republican strategist rina shaw, and i wonder rina, what you think the effect is? of
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trump and other republicans pretty quickly trying to shift in favor of ivf if it works for them. >> well, it's the right move because the backlash was severe right after this ruling came out, it bears repeating this court ruling is the first ruling of its kind, where it determines what is life is so close to conception that really shakes the consciousness of the younger american woman that two years after the overturn of roe, never thought we'd really see this day, but those of us who are in the political sphere and know that when you give an inch, they'll take a mile. and that is what the politicians and alabama determined. i think they're supreme court didn't do this by any sort of interpretation of laws on the books. they wanted to gauge public opinion or what they think is public opinion. but the numbers are stark. brianna, there really start across the united states, the cdc says there were 92,000 live births in credit to ivf. now in alabama alone, there were 966 embryo transfers and the year 2021, of which four 407 live birth deliveries resulted.
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that's 50%. that's families that would never have the beautiful thing that is life. if there weren't ivf so reproductive assistive technologies are massive and the gop knows that, so no surprise that the former president would come out and say, i'm fine with it, i'm not going to take it away because he knows those are votes that are against him. if he didn't say what he said, what do you think? >> yeah. >> great effort >> there's a problem first of all, democrat voters trust democrats on this issue more than republicans. and i think it's going to be a problem for donald trump given that the other thing that happened last week is that he came out and said, are they didn't say publicly, but he's 15 week abortion ban the challenge and part of where i think republicans, again, when the dobbs decision happened, it opened up a whole pandora's box of issues. >> how are >> you as a candidate going to say? i believe a woman and her husband and her partnership for ivf, they can make that
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decision, but she can't decide for herself. whether or not to terminate a pregnancy. think about the stories we've seen in places like texas where a woman needed wanted to have an abortion because it would preserve her ability to have more children. and they said no when they threatened her so i think i think there was not the they were not prepared for what this was going to mean. and so they'll forget also during the election, they're going to be other racist. there are secretary and that's secretary state races, but there are down races that will be impacted by this issue. and i expect candidates are going to be asked where do you stand on this issue? and just like we saw in virginia in the midterms, math, everybody's going to have the right answer. so this is going to continue to be an issue for republicans. >> you're hearing in the state, the legislature is planning to deal with this democrats and republicans. they are planning to introduce legislation that will protect ivf. we still need seemed to wait and see what they come up with to see what the bills look like. but i wonder, karen, how does it look to voters if there
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is a carve-out for women who have ivf, which by the way means they are significantly more likely to be financially well off. their significantly more likely to be white but then there isn't one for women who don't have the means to leave alabama for abortion, even if they're pregnant in the case of rape or incest, that's right. >> and what that says to women, again, for candidates, when you ask okay, so where do you stand on these issues? that sets up a hypocrisy that as a woman, as someone who supports women, they'll say, you know what? let's just go back to what the reproductive rights movement has been saying, which is a woman and her family should be making these decisions. full stop period >> again, because >> we know that every woman has a different health situation and so do we really want our legislators making these decisions? >> what do you think that's been the hard part for me >> seeing this ruling come down. i thought it was a simple thing to say. this is about
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people who are unelected bureaucrats getting in that exam room between a woman and her dr. because i was on the hill when the affordable care act pass as a young staffer, and i remember those were the talking points that we had as republicans that we do not want these people in that exam room. it is between a woman and her dr. and so conventional wisdom would lead you to believe that most conservatives will have a problem with this ruling because it is not pro-life in nature. it is about government in broaching on the lives of these women. and essentially, you apply that logic that i just talked about, and you get a whole generation of women pushing back on this republican party in saying, stay out of my bedroom because i mean, this is the thing that the people's values and attitudes have changed over the last 15 years. we're not here having this conversation. what reproductive freedom by accident. we saw this in the movement 15 years it's ago that people in the middle were uncomfortable with the idea of government deciding now that is coming to fruition. and now our politics are having to deal with that we're going to see how voters respond to
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this. no doubt. rina karen, thank you so much to both of you. so let's discuss the impact that this ruling is having on the ground with barbara collura and infertility expert and president and ceo of resolve, the national fertility association barbara, you have the attorney general of alabama republican announcing today he has no intention of using this supreme court decision in the state as the basis for prosecuting ivf governor kay ivey and other republicans trying to reassure alabamans. why is that not enough? >> to assuage >> fertility centers that have halted treatments because you have at least three fertility clinics, nearly half in the state that are on pause. >> well, first of all, thank you for having me. thank you for continuing to talk about this issue. it's been an incredible week for our community, terrified just really a shocking week for our entire community why is it not enough to have an attorney
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general and a governor say, look, it's fine, it's good. we're not going to go after you get legislation passed. >> that is locke's this up and makes it very, very clear what people can and can't do with their embryos in the state of alabama, get it done, the legislature can do that. they can put forth legislation that's going to protect people's access to care, protect those health care workers and really protect people's rights over their embryos let's get it in legislation. lets get it in statute, lets get it signed into law. and then i think we can all take a deep breath and realize that we can reopen and we can see patients and we can move on realistically, how long do you think that would take >> yeah. i mean, you know, your, your listeners know the legislative process, even at the state-level, can go slowly. it's not as slow as congress but several weeks. if not, hopefully, lot less than that
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the legislative process in alabama, we need to have a bill that everybody agrees with. it needs to get voted on. and then the governor needs to sign it. we're not there yet. we're not there yet. and you think this would be pretty easy to get fixed? but we need to get this fixed and the legislature has the power to do that. >> i spoke with alabama's house minority leader, anthony daniel's a democrat earlier today he's proposing legislation to make a distinction between an embryo that is implanted in a uterus and one that is not the one that is not would not have those protections were not have the rights of a child. would that fix this in your eyes? >> you know, i we're not sure, but the problem is that legislation is probably not going to go anywhere. we need legislation that is going to move and that's going to fix this and then has the greatest chance of passing. so what is a lot?
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>> well, we want protections that says that people have complete rights over their embryos that medical professionals can deliver ivf care in the state of alabama. and there's no interference in that process at all and that weather whether they have to come up with what that status of that embryo looks like. it's certainly can't be that an embryo is a person. we know that absolutely cannot be. but we've got to be able to say that people have the right to create embryos. they have rights over those embryos. and the health care workers to deliver that care can't be prosecuted >> barbara, thank you so much for being with us >> thank you >> we appreciate your time tonight. tonight on cnn news night. abbe will speak with seven of the nation's eight democratic female governors about ivf, the economy, and the ages of the 20 24 candidates
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30 days get together. the bond or the amount in cash then the plaintiff can collect against did she can start to seize assets, get liens against his properties, bank accounts, and that sort of thing, which is why he certainly will make sure that within the 30 days he's able to post the money or more likely surety bond between the new york fraud case and the e jean carroll defamation verdict trump has been ordered here to pay over half 1 billion in just a few weeks tonight, he is actually asking to delay his bond payment and the carroll case ultimately, who gets the priority here and getting paid? how does that work? >> well, they'll both have to file bonds in both cases. so the money will be there for payments for those plaintiffs. if and when the appeals come back and the awards are still legitimate and haven't been diminished in any way. so it's not so much who gets paid first because it's not the same money he'll have to file a separate bond in each case so that the plaintiffs can be paid at the end of the appeal
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process. >> looking now at the election subversion case out of georgia, where trump's legal team says they have a private investigator who's uncovered cell phone data that shows the lead prosecutor hired by fulton county da fani willis made several visits to the area of the condo that she was living in late 2021, which was a way a considerable distance from his own residents. they're arguing that shows that she and nathan wade lied under oath about when their relationship started and whether he ever spent the night. let's listen. >> i just want to be clear because my credibility is being evaluated here, right? >> we were friends. we hung out prior to november of 2021 in november of 2021, i hired him. i do not consider our relationship to have become romantic until early of 2022, as he ever visited you at the place you lay your head. so let's be clear because you've
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lied in this. let me tell you which one you lied right here. i think you lied right here >> i don't know. this is a trump judge and a lot the trump team, jennifer alleges over 2000 voice calls around 12,000 interactions like texts between willis and wade in 2021. before they say the relationship began, lawyers from willis say the data does not prove anything relevant, but how do you think the judge might see this? >> yeah, the plot thickens briana. i mean, the issue here for whether she had a conflict that requires her removal was really about the finances. it was about whether she was financially benefitting from the relationship but now that she and mr. wade both have said under oath in their filings and in their testimony that they were not romantically involved at the time he was hired, that could be now a separate basis for removing her from the case. so that's why this is so important. i think the judge has a decision to make because the willis team is saying
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saying that that the evidence of the subpoenaed phone records shouldn't even come in that the judge didn't even consider them. so he first has to decide if he's considering this evidence, and then what to do about it. you know, the evidence is supposed to be closed at this point. they're not supposed to go back for more evidence. so he'll have to decide whether he now on march 1, instead of just hearing arguments men's actually wants some more evidence about what these records actually show and whether the analysis proffered by the trump team is the accurate one. >> and back to new york. another case a jury today finding that long nra head wayne lapierre should pay $4.3 million in damages after misusing a charitable funds on lavish trips and other questionable expenditures. what is your takeaway from this ruling? >> well, this is a pretty classic case of corruption and self-dealing charities in new york state, like all states are regulated by the government, and you're not just allowed to use the money that people give to your charity is your own
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personal piggybank. so the evidence was quite compelling that he was using it for his own purposes for lavish trips and so on. so the jury verdict makes perfect sense to me that he should have to pay back the money that was the nra's money that's supposed to be used for the purposes of the nra, which is largely lobbying and not for his own personal expenses. so it seems like it's the right verdict. me, he'll have to pay it back. he already had resigned. so their order that he should be taken off of the nra anyway doesn't really mean much. but now there's another proceeding following on this one, brianna, where the judge himself will decide things about what happens to the nra from here out, whether an independent monitor should be put in and whether other penalties will be put into place to make sure that the nra now will be on in a proper footing going forward. >> yeah. wayne lapierre may be gone, but his influence is still there very much at the nra. >> jennifer rodgers. thank you so much. >> thanks, brianna >> next today is punishment de
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this is cnn >> president biden is marking the second anniversary of russia's invasion of ukraine by imposing sanctions on more than 500 targets. this is his largest sanctions package today that hits financial and defense companies trying again to choke off i've putin's ability to get what he needs. and they also target those connected to the imprisonment of alexey navalny, putin, zoo punishment is also a message of support to ukraine as a $60,000,000,000 aid package remains hung up in congress, blocked by house republicans after senate majority leader chuck schumer and other democratic lawmakers met with president zelenskyy in ukraine today, schumer delivered a message to the speaker of the house we need speaker johnson to make sure that we get that aid and he has to see that history. it's on his back cannot have obesity to donald trump if he meets with
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the leading generals, if he meets with zelenskyy, if he meets with the americans on our side there'll be no way he won't be convinced that we need this aid >> and we're joined now by the former us ambassador to ukraine, bill taylor, ambassador. thank you so much for being with us on the precipice of this anniversary. this announcement, 500 sanctions against russia. it sounds significant that's a lot in number, but doesn't really make a difference as ukraine is fighting this war >> ukraine needs to fight this war weapons the sanctions overruled. medium-term will affect the russians ability to provide them weapons. but in the immediate term right now, the issue is not sanctioned. the issue is getting weapons to the occasion so the us has sanctioned russia in the past 500's a lot. that's, that's only a fraction though of the totality of what they've been sanctioned here and it actually pushed putin to reorient the
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economy to helped him ramp up domestic defense production, helped them make trade deals and look for new markets like india for instance. and that's not, that's not getting around sanctions to do that. that's okay. that they're doing that, but certainly doesn't work for the us. does the us have any ability? two cripple russia's economy? >> one way we could, which is not in this 500, is if we seize this $330 billion worth of russian central bank reserves which are already frozen in western banks so those 330 billion is already, there. it's not available to the russians any longer. but we need to take it from those banks, which they be happy to turn it over and put it into a fund that would help the ukrainians either reconstruct themselves or to keep their government going or even purchasing so what's the hang up for that? secretary panetta was trumpeting that very same thing today. brilliant minds, i
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guess here, what's the hang up? >> one hang-up is in order to address one of the concerns about this, one of the concerns about this is that, well, if the americans do it, then the chinese and others will take them money out of american bags and put them into german banks or belgian banks. but if we all do it together, if the germans and the belgians americans, the brits, and all the european, do it together. then there are no chance of them moving their money into another banking system. >> you mentioned weapons putin announcing russia has begun this serial production of what's called the zircon hypersonic missile experts say this would be nearly impossible to shoot downs when you're talking about weapons for ukraine, you can see why they would need things, but also why this may bring new challenges. how worried are you about this? >> so they've set, the russians have said that before. we have a super weapon, that means you can't touch that can penetrate any defenses. and it turned i was actually in q when these super hypersonic missiles
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came in and the patriots fired by the ukrainians, shot them down. >> so, yeah, we should make >> sure we will take it seriously. we always take weapons seriously but they've overhype, the russians have overhype their capabilities before former cia director david petraeus retired general of course, four-star general, telling cnn, he's excuse the tide really shifting here, that russia has momentum and that they are pushing forward as promised, how much longer do you think ukraine can hold on? >> ukraine will hold on for a long time, whether or not they can hold on successfully and defend what they've now got there's another question that is they are having a hard time on the ground. they're doing well on the sea. >> there, knocking >> aircraft, russian aircraft that the sky so they're doing well in that regard. and even if this weapon, these weapons that we've been talking about don't come there. you grange will continue to fight. >> one thing that is also clear with pass sanctions is it just
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it doesn't change putin's behavior. he seems to continue on undeterred the war in ukraine has dragged on. he's been dealt these brutal punishments and he's dealt brutal punishments to his political enemies as we've seen with alexey navalny and others. how does the outcome of the 2024 election, as he's looking towards november, how does that change? perhaps his calculus about what he's doing, what he's doing is just waiting us out. he's trying to wait out the ukrainians without the europeans wait out the americans, hoping that they will blink or they will falter, or they will get tired. or something changes in the politics that's his. he doesn't have a strong strategy making some progress on the ground, but he is not there, doesn't have a strategy to move forward >> do you think that congress is going to pass aid for ukraine? >> yes, i do i can't be sure.
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obviously, that's up to a lot. has to do with the speaker whom i don't know. but there are a lot of people working with and around and in the congress who care a lot about this issue, who see the strategic historic importance of the craniums winning this war? stopping the russians in ukraine. but if trump isn't one of them you know, there have been a couple of interesting articles written that you analyze what's present with former president has said, we don't know where he stands on this issue. we know where he stands on border, but i don't think we know where he stands on ukraine. we know a big fan of ukrainian more on ski or zelenskyy, all those zelenskyy, me have had some good good interactions ambassador, always great to get your perspective. thank you so much and next, why israel's new plan for a postwar gaza is now putting ongoing hostage negotiations in jeopardy did this
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potentially illegal buffer zones. many other things. how would you characterize this list? >> well, look, this was prime minister netanyahu, eye on the one hand responding to criticism that he hadn't already outlined more of a specific vision for what a post-war gaza might look like. but at the same time, having now done so, he has angered or short distance with many of the parties, so it's almost an impossible simple situation. he is not on the same page, not only with the palestinians, but also with the united states briana, i think that this is really an example where netanyahu's proposals look quite different. for example, president biden and his administration have talked about it kind of revitalized palestinian authority pretty as the governing authority in both the west bank and gaza after the war, netanyahu seems to reject that and say no, we would have military control still rest with israel. and
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that civilian administration should be handled only by unspecified palestinians who do not not have any connection to terrorist groups. what does that mean? we don't know, but it doesn't suggest the palestinian authority because he says they should be local and not living in the west bank. that's just one example. you mentioned the buffer zones as well. i think that would be a nonstarter for many parties, including egypt, which of course shares the border with gaza and is already very concerned about the prospect of trouble spilling over those borders. >> yet look, no one besides israel is on >> board with this plan are much that's in it. secretary blinken rejecting a lot of this, egypt, rejecting israeli control of its border with gaza, the uae saying they're not helping with reconstruction if there's no palestinian state. why is netanyahu drawing up a plan that no one will agree to or really see eye to eye on really any provisions in it well, look, i mean, this is
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first of all, not only an international issue, but for him it tells you a matter of his own political survival. so much of what he does, he's aiming at making sure that he doesn't get dumped by his own far-right coalition. and so there's a delicate, delicate calibration there. remember that? who, is, very unpopular in israel and there's a very real prospect that if the war stops, that the first-order of business for many israelis will be to throw netanyahu out of office. maybe that'll happen, maybe it won't, but i do think domestic politics are if not top of mind for him, certainly an important factor in this plan also, remember that throughout his long, long career in politics, netanyahu has been not a friend or a believer in the concept of a separate palestinian, an independent palestinian state. and many of the things he's done as a politician have made it harder and harder for that goal to be achieved, frankly, so i'm not surprised that
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he's not changing course now. >> yeah, hard to see how he would come around to that after all this time in the meantime, something else that no doubt would be making hostage negotiations more difficult. you have netanyahu announcing 3,000 new who homes for israeli settlements in the west bank. it's a proposal that secretary blinken calls inconsistent with international law. what is netanyahu doing here and what's the us is play well, look again, look at who is that coalition supporting netanyahu. it's actually the most far right coalition in israel's history. and that means many settlers and the people who have advanced the idea of the settlement movement are key supporters of netanyahu's government. >> what's notable? me is secretary of state blinken making a point of rejecting this and saying it's not consistent with international law. you'll remember that during the trump administration, they actually reversed long standing us
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policy, which has long been critical as, as long as you and i can remember. in fact that's been republican presidents and democratic presidents have criticized israel for expanding their settlements, seeing that as an obstacle to a future >> peace agreement. but the trump administration essentially got fully embed with netanyahu's government at the time, made a, basically a policy shifting blinken now appears to be undoing. >> susan. thank you so much for helping us understand so much more about this proposal. we appreciate it great to be with you tonight, the pentagon is tracking a new unidentified balloon in the skies over america. we'll have details on that next were you worried that wedding would be too much >> now, another destination? why did we just got by for persistence at knapp book? it's merited my daughter who gets right someplace more expensive. my daughter jamaica
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